ДМТ Молекула духа / DMT: The Spirit Molecule (Mitch Schultz) [2010, Документальный, TVRip-AVC]

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ß âèäåë ýòîò ãîðîä c î÷åíü äàëåêîãî ðàññòîÿíèÿ, îí áûë ò¸ìíî-çåë¸íûì
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è òàì áûëî ìíîæåñòâî ìåðöàþùèõ îãíåé è îáëàêà ïðîïëûâàëè íàä íèì.
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Âñ¸ ýòî íà÷àëîñü ïîñëå íåâåðîÿòíûõ ãåîìåòðè÷åñêèõ óçîðîâ
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îíè èçìåíÿëèñü íåâåðîÿòíî áûñòðî, ÷òî
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íåâîçìîæíî áûëî îïèñàòü ýòî êîìó-ëèáî, íàñòîëüêî áûñòðî îíè ìåíÿëèñü
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Ïîñëå îíè çàìåäëèëèñü, è ÿ óâèäåë âäàëåêå ýòîò ãîðîä.
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ÿ êàê áû ðàññìàòðèâàë åãî, è òîãäà ñâåòÿùèéñÿ øàð
ïðîëåòåë ïðÿìî âîçëå ìåíÿ, íàïðîòèâ ìåíÿ
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"÷òî ýòî áûëî?" ýòî íå èñïóãàëî ìåíÿ, êðîìå òîãî
÷òî ýòî ïðîèçîøëî áëèçêî îò ìåíÿ
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ïîñëå ýòîãî ÿ íà÷àë îñìàòðèâàòüñÿ, è òàêîå îùóùåíèå,
÷òî íàõîäèøüñÿ â òîì ñàìîì ìåñòå
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è òîãäà ñïðàøèâàåøü ñåáÿ "÷òî ÿ äåëàþ çäåñü?"
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è òîãäà ÿ çàìå÷àþ, ÷òî ñïðàâà îò ìåíÿ æåíùèíà,
ó íå¸ î÷åíü äëèííûé íîñ è çåë¸íàÿ êîæà
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îíà ïîâîðà÷èâàëà ýòîò äèñê è ÿ îñîçíàë,
÷òî îíà èçìåíÿëà ÿðêîñòü ñâåòà äåëàÿ åãî òî ñèëüíåå òî ñëàáåå
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â òîì ãîðîäå âäàëåêå.
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Êàê òîëüêî ÿ ïîñìîòðåë íà íå¸, îíà çàìåòèëà ýòî è ñêàçàëà:
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"×òî åù¸ òû õî÷åøü?". ß îòâåòèë: "×òî åù¸ ó òåáÿ åñòü?"
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"Ìîëåêóëà Äóõà"
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Ýòî èñòîðèÿ î "DMT" èëè äèìåòèëòðèïòàìèíå.
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Ïðîñòîé ýëåìåíò, íàéäåííûé â ïðèðîäå, êîòîðûé
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èìååò ñèëüíîå âîçäåéñòâèå íà ÷åëîâå÷åñêîå ñîçíàíèå.
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Êðîìå îêàçûâàåìîãî ýôôåêòà, åù¸ îäíà âåùü â DMT
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êîòîðàÿ âñåãäà î÷àðîâûâàëà ìåíÿ, áûë òîò ôàêò, ÷òî ýòî òàêàÿ ïðîñòàÿ ìîëåêóëà.
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DMT - ýòî ñîêðàùåíèå îò äèìåòèëòðèïòàìèíà èëè N,N-äèìåòèëòðèïòàìèíà.
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Åñëè âû áóäåòå ñìîòðåòü íà êîëüöåâóþ ñòðóêòóðó DMT
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òî âû óâèäèòå òîëüêî ÷åòûðå ïîçèöèè â êîòîðûõ
âîçìîæíî ñîåäèíåíèå ñ äðóãèìè ìîëåêóëàìè.
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Òàê âû ìîæåòå ñîçäàòü äèýòèë, äèïðîïèë.
Åñòü íåêîòîðûå äðóãèå òèïû óãëåðîäíûõ ñîåäèíåíèé, ïðèñîåäèíèâ êîòîðûå
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âû ïîëó÷èòå âåùåñòâà, íå îñîáî îòëè÷àþùèåñÿ ïî äåéñòâèþ îò DMT.
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Áèîñèíòåòè÷åñêè, ýòî â äâóõ øàãàõ îò òðèïòîôàíà.
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Äâå ïðîñòûå ýíçèìíûå ðåàêöèè èç òðèïòîôàíà.
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À òðèïòîôàí - ýòî àìèíîêèñëîòà è ñîäåðæèòñÿ ôàêòè÷åñêè âî âñ¸ì.
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Òàê âñå îðãàíèçìû ñîäåðæàò òðèïòîôàí, è âñå îðãàíèçìû
ñîäåðæàò äâà êëþ÷åâûõ ýíçèìà(ôåðìåíòà) äëÿ ñèíòåçèðîâàíèÿ DMT
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è ýòè ôåðìåíòû î÷åíü äðåâíèå, îíè ïîâñþäó,
îíè - êðàåóãîëüíûé êàìåíü ìåòàáîëèçìà.
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Òàêèì îáðàçîì, òåîðåòè÷åñêè, âñå ìîãóò ñèíòåçèðîâàòü DMT.
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DMT óäèâèòåëüíî øèðîêî ðàñïðîñòðàíåí â ðàñòåíèÿõ è æèâîòíûõ âî âñåì ìèðå,
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íî äî ñèõ ïîð íèêòî íå çíàåò, ïî÷åìó îí òàì! Èëè êàêîâà ôóíêöèÿ.
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Ýòî âîïðîñ íà ìèëëèîí äîëëàðîâ.
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Ïî÷åìó DMT â íàøåì îðãàíèçìå? Ïî÷åìó â ðàñòåíèÿõ, âî âñåõ âèäàõ ìëåêîïèòàþùèõ?
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Êàêóþ ðîëü èãðàåò â îðãàíèçìå ÷åëîâåêà?
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Òðèäöàòü - ñîðîê ëåò íàçàä áûëî ïðèíÿòî ñ÷èòàòü
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÷òî ýòè ìîëåêóëû íå èìåëè ðåàëüíûõ ôóíêöèé, à áûëè ïðîñòî
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ôèçèîëîãè÷åñêèì øóìîì. Ýòî áûëî î÷åíü íàèâíîå ïîíèìàíèå, è
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òåïåðü ìû ïîíèìàåì, ÷òî ýòè âòîðè÷íûå ñîåäèíåíèÿ
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â íåêîòîðîì ñìûñëå ÿçûê ðàñòåíèé.
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Ýòè ìîëåêóëû - ñîîáùåíèÿ.
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Ýòî òî, ÷òî ðàñòåíèÿ èñïîëüçóþò äëÿ óñòàíîâëåíèÿ
îòíîøåíèé ñ äðóãèìè îðãàíèçìàìè â îêðóæàþùåé ñðåäå.
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Ïî÷åìó ÷åëîâåê îáëàäàåò íåðâíîé ñèñòåìîé, ñïîñîáíîé
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ïðèíèìàòü ýòîò îïûò.
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Äîëæíî áûòü âû çíàåòå, ýòî âàæíåéøàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ äëÿ èçó÷åíèÿ.
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Òàê ÷òî ÿ íå äóìàþ, ÷òî DMT ïðèñóòñòâóåò â ïðèðîäå ñëó÷àéíî.
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Îíà èìååò ðåàëüíûå ôóíêöèè, ó íàñ åñòü îïûò ñîâìåñòíîé ýâîëþöèè ñ ðàñòåíèÿìè.
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Âî âñ¸ì ýòîì åñòü ñìûñë è íàçíà÷åíèå.
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Ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî âïèñûâàåòñÿ â òåîðèþ, ÷òî DMT ìîæåò áûòü óíèâåðñàëüíûì
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ìîëåêóëÿðíûì ÿçûêîì.
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Îáùèé ÿçûê äëÿ âñåõ æèâûõ ñóùåñòâ íà ýòîé ïëàíåòå
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è âîçìîæíî è íà äðóãèõ.
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ß íå ìîãó ïðåäñòàâèòü áîëåå ìîãóùåñòâåííîãî èíñòðóìåíòà
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Äëÿ èçó÷åíèÿ âîïðîñà: "×òî òàêîå ñîçíàíèå?".
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Ýòî âåùåñòâî - èíñòðóìåíò, êîòîðûé ìîæåò áûòü èñïîëüçîâàí
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äëÿ ïîâûøåíèÿ îñâåäîìëåííîñòè âî âñåõ ñôåðàõ æèçíè è
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ïðèìåíÿòüñÿ äëÿ ðàñøèðåíèÿ ñîçíàíèÿ, ÷òîáû óëó÷øèòü
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æèçíè ëþäåé, îáùèí, ñåìåé è âñåãî îáùåñòâà.
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Õîðîøåé íîâîñòüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ òî, ÷òî ðàñòåò ÷èñëî çàïàäíîé
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èíòåëëèãåíöèè, ó÷¸íûõ, õóäîæíèêîâ, àêò¸ðîâ è ðåæèññ¸ðîâ è òàê äàëåå,
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êîòîðûå ïîíèìàþò, ÷òî ýòîò ìàòåðèàë ñëèøêîì èíòåðåñåí,
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÷òîáû îáõîäèòü åãî ñòîðîíîé.
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À ìåæäó òåì, Èíêâèçèöèÿ äàâíî îêîí÷åíà,
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ðàñöâåò ðàöèîíàëèçìà ïðîøåë,
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è íà äàííûé ìîìåíò íåò íèêàêèõ îñíîâàíèé, êðîìå äóðíîé ïðèâû÷êè,
äëÿ ñóùåñòâîâàíèÿ ýòèõ áàðüåðîâ.
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Ñ ïîìîùüþ äâóõ ïîíÿòèé, êîòîðûå òðàäèöèîííî ïðîòèâîïîñòàâëÿþò:
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íàóêà è äóõîâíîñòü
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ìû ñòðåìèìñÿ âíîâü ââåñòè ïñèõîäåëèêè îáðàòíî â êóëüòóðíûé äèàëîã.
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"ÄÌÒ - ìîëåêóëà Äóõà". Ïîíèìàåòå, ýòî èãðà ñëîâ, ýòî ïàðàäîêñ.
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"Äóõ" - ýòî âíóòðåííèé ìèð, "ìîëåêóëà" - âíåøíèé.
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Òàê ïñèõîäåëèêè, äðóãèìè ñëîâàìè - "ýíòåîãåíû", âåäóò íàñ îò íàóêè ê äóõó.
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ß çàèíòåðåñîâàëñÿ øèøêîâèäíîé æåëåçîé, êîòîðàÿ ÿâëÿåòñÿ î÷åíü ìàëåíüêèì îðãàíîì
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â öåíòðå ìîçãà, êîòîðàÿ âñåãäà áûëà îáúåêòîì èíòåðåñà
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è äàæå ïî÷èòàíèÿ ìíîæåñòâà ýçîòåðè÷åñêèõ è ôèçèîëîãè÷åñêèõ äèñöèïëèí.
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ß äóìàþ, âû çíàåòå, ÷òî íå ñîâñåì àáñóðäíî ïðåäïîëîæèòü
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÷òî øèøêîâèäíàÿ æåëåçà âûðàáàòûâàåò ýíäîãåííûé DMT,
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÷òî, êàê âû çíàåòå, õîðîøî âïèñûâàåòñÿ â ìîþ òåîðèþ
î òîì ÷òî øèøêîâèäíàÿ æåëåçà êàêèì-òî îáðàçîì
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ó÷àñòâóåò â åñòåñòâåííûõ ìèñòè÷åñêèõ ïåðåæèâàíèÿõ.
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Ýòà ãèïîòåçà ïðåäïîëàãàåò, ÷òî øèøêîâèäíàÿ æåëåçà, â îïðåäåëåííîå âðåìÿ
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â îïðåäåë¸ííûõ ñòðåññîâûõ ñèòóàöèÿõ,
âûðàáàòûâàåò çíà÷èòåëüíîå êîëè÷åñòâî ýòîãî ãîðìîíà, DMT.
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È î òîì, ÷òî ãîðìîí, îáëåã÷àåò âõîä è âûõîä äóøè èç òåëà.
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Ýòî òî, ÷òî åâðåéñêèå ìèñòèêè îïèñûâàþò
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â çàøèôðîâàííîì âèäå, áóêâàëüíî íà ïðîòÿæåíèè òûñÿ÷åëåòèé.
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Ïîñðåäñòâîì ìåäèòàöèè, ïîñðåäñòâîì ïîñòà, ïåñíîïåíèÿ, è ìíîæåñòâà äðóãèõ ìåòîäîâ
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ìîæåò áûòü çàäåéñòâîâàíà âûðàáîòêà ýíäîãåííîãî DMT,
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÷òî ñîîòíîñèòñÿ ñ ìèñòè÷åñêèìè è îêîëîñìåðòíûìè ïåðåæèâàíèÿìè.
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Ó ìåíÿ áûëà ýòà òåîðèÿ, ÷òî ñóùåñòâóåò áîëüøîå ñõîäñòâî
ìåæäó ïñèõîäåëè÷åñêèì îïûòîì
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è îïûòîì, êîòîðûé âîçìîæåí ïðè äëèòåëüíîé ïðàêòèêå ìåäèòàöèé.
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È ýòî áûëî îäíèì èç ïåðâûõ óìîçàêëþ÷åíèé,
êîòîðîå ïîäòîëêíóëî ìåíÿ ê ïîèñêàì "ìîëåêóëû äóõà".
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Ê ïîèñêàì ñîåäèíåíèÿ â ìîçãó, âûñâîáîæäàþùåãî ìèñòè÷åñêèå ïåðåæèâàíèÿ.
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ß äóìàþ, ÷òî ìîæåò áûòü ñ ïîìîùüþ DMT ìîæíî îáúÿñíèòü
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âñå ãàëëþöèíàòîðíûå ÿâëåíèÿ, êîòîðûå ÷åëîâåê
èñïûòûâàåò íà ïðîòÿæåíèè âñåé ñâîåé èñòîðèè.
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Òâîð÷åñòâî, ôàíòàçèÿ, ìå÷òàíèå,
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èçìåíåíèÿ, ñâÿçàííûå ñ èçîëÿöèåé,
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òðàâìû, ãîëîä - âñ¸ ýòî âûçûâàåò ãàëëþöèíàòîðíûå ÿâëåíèÿ.
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Ýòè ãàëëþöèíàòîðíûå ÿâëåíèÿ îáúÿñíèìû
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ïðèñóòñòâèåì ñîåäèíåíèé, âûçûâàþùèõ ãàëëþöèíàöèè.
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È åäèíñòâåííûå ñîåäèíåíèÿ ñïîñîáíûå ñäåëàòü ýòî
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ÿâëÿþòñÿ êëàññîì ñîåäèíåíèé èçàåñòíûì êàê ãàëëþöèíîãåíû.
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Åñëè ðàññóæäàòü î äóõîâíûõ ñîñòîÿíèÿõ,
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ÿ äóìàþ ýíäîãåííûå ãàëëþöèíîãåííûå ñîåäèíåíèÿ è ìîëåêóëû,
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êîòîðûå ìîçã ìîæåò ïîòåíöèàëüíî ãåíåðèðîâàòü,
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âåðîÿòíî, èìåþò ñàìîå íåïîñðåäñòâåííîå îòíîøåíèå ê ýòîé òåìå, ïîñêîëüêó
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ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû, îíè ìîãóò ðåàëüíî ïîìî÷ü íàì âûÿñíèòü
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êàêîâ íåéðîõèìè÷åñêèé ìåõàíèçì ýòîãî îïûòà. ß èìåþ â âèäó,
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åñëè áû ìû ìîãëè ñêàçàòü, ÷òî òàì åñòü âûáðîñ
ýíäîãåííûõ îïèîèäîâ, ëèáî æå ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò âûáðîñ
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äîïàìèíà èëè ÷åãî-òî ïîäîáíîãî,
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òî ìû ñìîãëè áû èçìåðèòü ýòîò âûáðîñ è ìû
ñìîãëè áû ïðîñëåäèòü äâèæåíèå ýòèõ ìîëåêóë â ìîçãå.
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Êàêèå ðåöåïòîðû îíè àêòèâèçèðóþò èëè âûêëþ÷àþò.
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È òåïåðü ìû ìîæåì óçíàòü äåéñòâèòåëüíî ìíîãî áîëüøå
î òîì, ÷åì ÿâëÿþòñÿ ýòè îïûòû
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ïîòîìó ÷òî ýòî ìîæåò äåéñòâèòåëüíî ïîçâîëèòü ñîïîñòàâëÿòü ýòè ïåðåæèâàíèÿ
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ëþäåé íàõîäÿùèõñÿ ïîä ãàëëþöèíîãåíàìè,
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à òàêæå ïîíÿòü, êàê ýòè ïåðåæèâàíèÿ ñâÿçàíû ñ ðåöåïòîðàìè ìîçãà,
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è äðóãèìè îòäåëàìè ìîçãà, îáû÷íî îñòàþùèìèñÿ íåàêòèâíûìè.
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Îäíîé èç äðóãèõ èíòåðåñíûõ âåùåé â ôàðìàêîëîãèè DMT
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ÿâëÿåòñÿ òî, ÷òî îí àêòèâíî òðàíñïîðòèðóåòñÿ â ìîçã,
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è âû óäèâèòåñü, óçíàâ, êàêóþ ðîëü èãðàåò ÄÌÒ â âîñïðèÿòèè âñåãî â îáû÷íîé æèçíè.
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Åñëè ÄÌÒ ñëèøêîì ìíîãî, òî âåùè ñòàíîâÿòñÿ î÷åíü ïñèõîäåëè÷íûìè, ëèáî æå,
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åñëè åãî íåäîñòàòî÷íî, òî ìîçã âîñïðèíèìàåò âåùè ãëóïûìè, ïëîñêèìè è ñåðûìè.
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Òàì òî, ÷òî äëÿ ìåíÿ, èìååò ñìûñë â DMT. Âû íàçûâàåòå ýòî "ìîëåêóëîé äóõà"
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Äëÿ ìåíÿ îíà íàçûâàåòñÿ "ìîëåêóëîé ðåàëüíîñòè"
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 ýòîì åñòü ôèëîñîôñêèé ñìûñë, ÷òî ñóùåñòâóåò íå÷òî ôóíäàìåíòàëüíîå
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â íàøåì ñïîñîáå âîñïðèÿòèÿ ðåàëüíîñòè.
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Áûëî ÷óâñòâî, ÷òî ýòî ÷òî-òî îñîáåííîå.
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Ýòî íå ïîõîäèëî íà ÷òî-íèáóäü åùå. Ýòî áûëî íå ïîõîæå íà äðóãèå ïñèõîäåëèêè.
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Åãî èíòåíñèâíîñòü è ñêîðîñòü áûëà òàêîé,
÷òî îíà äåéñòâèòåëüíî ïðîèçâîäèëà ðàçëè÷íûå ñâîåãî ðîäà ðåàêöèè.
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ß èìåþ â âèäó, ÿ ïîìíþ ÷òî ýòî áûëî êàê ïñèõîäåëè÷åñêèé ïðûæîê íà òàðçàíêå.
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Ýòî áûë ñâîåãî ðîäà ñêà÷îê â ýòó áûñòðî èçìåíÿþùóþñÿ ñðåäó,
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÷òî î÷åíü îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò áîëåå ïîñòåïåííîãî äåéñòâèÿ äðóãèõ ïñèõîäåëèêîâ.
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Êóðåíèå ÄÌÒ ìîæíî íàçâàòü "ãàëîïîì ïî ïñèõîäåëè÷åñêèì åâðîïàì"
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Âû íàõîäèòåñü â îäíîì ìåñòå, ÁÀÕ! - âû íàõîäèòåñü â äðóãîì ìåñòå,
à çàòåì ÁÓÌ! - âû âåðíóëèñü îáðàòíî.
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Îí íå îñòàâëÿåò ìíîãî âîçìîæíîñòåé äëÿ ðàçìûøëåíèé, âðîäå:
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"Êòî ÿ?" "×òî ÿ çäåñü äåëàþ?" "Ïî÷åìó ÿ â ýòîì ìåñòå?""×òî ÿ èçó÷àþ?"
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Ïðàêòè÷åñêè, èíôîðìàöèè áûëî ñëèøêîì ìíîãî äëÿ íåñêîëüêèõ ìèíóò,
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íå ãîâîðÿ óæå î òîì ÷òîáû îñìûñëèòü ýòó èíôîðìàöèþ äî âîçâðàòà.
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Êîãäà ââîäÿò Äèìåòèëòðèïòàìèí, îí íà÷èíàåò î÷åíü áûñòðî äåéñòâîâàòü,
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è èìååò î÷åíü êîðîòêóþ ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòü äåéñòâèÿ.
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Ýòî ïîòîìó, ÷òî îí î÷åíü áûñòðî ðàçðóøàåòñÿ â îðãàíèçìå è âûâîäèòñÿ.
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DMT áûñòðî ðàçëàãàåòñÿ ôåðìåíòàìè â ïå÷åíè,
êîòîðûå íàçûâàþòñÿ ìîíîàìèíîêñèäàçû (ÌÀÎ).
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Âîò ïî÷åìó îí íåàêòèâåí, êîãäà âû ïðèíèìàåòå åãî ïåðîðàëüíî.
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 îòëè÷èå îò ïñèëîöèáèíà
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êîòîðûé ïðè ïîïàäàíèè â îðãàíèçì ïåðîðàëüíî
íå î÷åíü áûñòðî ðàçëàãàåòñÿ ìîíîàìèíîêñèäàçàìè
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ïîýòîìó îí ïðîõîäèò ÷åðåç ïå÷åíü è ïîïàäàåò â êðîâîòîê, à âìåñòå ñ íèì - â ìîçã.
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Äà, ÿ î÷åíü çàèíòåðåñîâàëñÿ àéîóàñêîé.
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Êîãäà ÿ íà÷èíàë ñâîå èññëåäîâàíèå â íà÷àëå 1990-õ
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Àéîóàñêà òîëüêî íà÷èíàëà ïðîêëàäûâàòü ñâîé ïóòü íà Çàïàä.
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Î÷åâèäíî, îíà ñòàëà íàìíîãî áîëåå ïîïóëÿðíîé â ïîñëåäíèå 10-15 ëåò.
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È èíãðèäèåíòîì, îòâå÷àþùèì çà âèäåíèÿ, â Àéîóàñêå ÿâëÿåòñÿ DMT.
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Ïîðàçèòåëüíî, íî åùå äî ñîâðåìåííîé õèìèè àáîðèãåíû Àìàçîíêè,
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ñëó÷àéíî èëè ïóòåì íàìåðåííîãî êîìáèíèðîâàíèÿ -
ÿ íå çíàþ êàê îíè ýòî ñäåëàëè, íî îíè
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íàøëè îäíî ðàñòåíèå, ñîäåðæàùåå DMT
è îäíî ðàñòåíèå ñîäåðæàùåå èíãèáèòîð ýíçèìîâ.
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Îáúåäèíèòå èõ è âû ñìîæåòå ïðèíèìàòü DMT ïåðîðàëüíî, ñîõðàíÿÿ åãî àêòèâíîñòü.
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Äåéñòâèå íà÷íåòñÿ ÷åðåç ïîë÷àñà, è ýôôåêò ïðîäëèòñÿ 3 - 4 ÷àñà,
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è âîçìîæíî, â ýòîì ñîñòîÿíèè âû ïî÷óâñòâóåòå ñåáÿ áîëåå êîìôîðòàáåëüíî,
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÷åì ïðè êóðåíèè èëè èíúåêöèè.
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Ïåðîðàëüíî ïðèíÿòàÿ Àéîóàñêà ñòðåìèòñÿ çàáðàòü âàñ
è àêêóðàòíî ïåðåíåñòè âàñ â ïðîñòðàíñòâî,
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îáíÿòü âàñ , î÷èñòèòü âàñ, è
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ïîêàçàòü âàì âñå âèäû ìèñòè÷åñêîãî âèäåíèÿ,
à çàòåì î÷åíü îñòîðîæíî âîçâðàùàåò âàñ,
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âû áóäòî ïåðî îïóñêàåòåñü îáðàòíî íà çåìëþ.
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Ìîé ÄÌÒ îïûò öåíåí ñàì ïî ñåáå,
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íî ÿ ÷óâñòâóþ, ÷òî åù¸ áîëüøàÿ öåííîñòü èìåííî â ýòîì "íàðîäíîì" ñïîñîáå
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òàê êàê îí ðàñòÿãèâàåò ýòî ñîñòîÿíèå è äåëàåò åãî áîëåå óïðàâëÿåìûì.
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Çíàåòå, íàøà ïðèøåäøàÿ èç Åâðîïû òðàäèöèÿ ïåðåãîíêè àëêîãîëÿ
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äëÿ èçîëÿöèè íåêîòîðûõ âåùåñòâ è ïîëó÷åíèÿ áîëåå êðåïêèõ íàïèòêîâ
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îòäàëÿåòñÿ òàêèì îáðàçîì îò íàòóðàëüíîñòè
â ïîëüçó ìàêñèìàëüíî ñèëüíîãî îïüÿíåíèÿ.
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ß íå äóìàþ, ÷òî, â öåëîì, ýòî ñàìûé ïîëåçíûé ñïîñîá.
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Äóìàþ, ýòî è áûëî ïðè÷èíîé, ïî êîòîðîé àáîðèãåíû
íàó÷èëèñü îáðàùàòü ïÿòèìèíóòíûé îïûò
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â ïÿòè÷àñîâîé.
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Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, Àéîóàñêå áûëî ïðåäíàçíà÷åíî
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ðàñïðîñòðàíèòüñÿ ïî ìèðó è "äîáàâèòü ïàðóñîâ" ìíîãèì òûñÿ÷àì æèçíåé,
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ãîðàçäî áîëüøèì, ÷åì çà ïðåäûäóùèå òûñÿ÷è ëåò.
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È ýòî ïðîèçîøëî î÷åíü áûñòðî, è ñóùåñòâóåò ñïîñîá ðàáîòû ñ ýòèì.
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Àéîóàñêà ãîðàçäî òðóäíåå
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äëÿ ñèëîâûõ ñòðóêòóð, êîòîðûå åñòü ñåé÷àñ, åå ãîðàçäî òðóäíåå ïîäàâèòü,
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ïîòîìó ÷òî îíà ÿâëÿëàñü ÷àñòüþ ëåãàëüíîé ðåëèãèîçíîé è äóõîâíîé ïðàêòèêè
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òûñÿ÷è ëåò, êîíêðåòíî â Àìàçîíèè.
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È ìû ïðîñòî íå ìîæåì ñïèñàòü âñ¸ ýòî, êàê ïðèìèòèâíîå ìóìáî-þìáî è ñóåâåðèå.
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Ìû äîëæíû ðàçáèðàòüñÿ ñ ýòèì íà åãî ñîáñòâåííûõ óñëîâèÿõ.
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ß äóìàþ, ðàñòåò êîëè÷åñòâî ëþäåé æåëàþùèõ
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ñíîâà îáúåäèíèòüñÿ ñ ïðèðîäîé,
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ñ ðàñòåíèÿìè, æèâîòíûìè è êîòîðûì èçâåñòíî,
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÷òî øàìàíñêèé ïóòü - ýòî ñïîñîá ñäåëàòü ýòî
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è ÷òî ïñèõîàêòèâíûå èíñòðóìåíòû ðàñòèòåëüíîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ, òàêèå êàê Àéîóàñêà,
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ýòî ñàìûé ïðÿìîé ñïîñîá ñäåëàòü ýòî.
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Ñåé÷àñ âîçìîæíî ýòî è íå âñåì ïðèäåòñÿ ïî âêóñó, è ÿ äóìàþ,
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÷òî ìíîæåñòâî ëþäåé, âîîáùå-òî íå áåç ïðè÷èíû, áîÿòñÿ ýòîãî.
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ß äóìàþ, êàê è ìíîãî ëþäåé â ìîåì ïîêîëåíèè,
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ÿ âïåðâûå óñëûøàë î DMT ÷åðåç Òåðåíñà Ìàêêåííó
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áûëî î÷åíü çàáàâíî óçíàòü î òàêîé ñèëüíîé, èíòåðåñíîé è
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àíòðîïîëîãè÷åñêè áîãàòîé òåìå, êàê ñîåäèíåíèÿ DMT ïîòîìó,
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÷òî ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî ñòàëî áîëüøå, ÷åì ïðîñòî íåêîå àáñòðàêòíîå ïîíÿòèå,
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êîòîðîå ëþäè âîñïðèíèìàþò êàê äàííîñòü.
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DMT-òðèï ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî ñîçíàíèå âíå òåëà - ýòî âîçìîæíî.
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ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî âñå óñòðåìëåíèÿ èñòîðèè,
âñå óñòðåìëåíèÿ æèçíè â òîì, ÷òîáû ñáðîñèòü òåëî.
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Òåðåíñ áûë î÷åíü... áûë õîðîøèì ïðîìîóòåðîì.
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Îí ãîâîðèë, ÷òî ýòî ïèëþëÿ ïåðâè÷íîé ìåòàôèçè÷åñêîé ðåàëüíîñòè.
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Õîòÿ ýòî è íå ïèëþëÿ,
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Ïîñëå òîãî êàê ÿ å¸ ïðèíÿë, ÿ ïîíÿë ÷òî ýòî äîñòàòî÷íî õîðîøî å¸ îïèñûâàåò.
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Ýòî, êàçàëîñü áû, ñîâåðøåííî èíîãî ïîðÿäêà,
íåæåëè ËÑÄ è ìåñêàëèí è íåêîòîðûå äðóãèå ïîäîáíûå âåùè.
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DMT äåéñòâèòåëüíî, êàæåòñÿ, ñîâåðøåííî äðóãèì óðîâíåì îïûòà.
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ß ïðîøó âàñ íå äåëàòü ïîñïåøíûõ ñóæäåíèé îá ýòèõ âåùåñòâàõ.
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×òî áû âû íè äóìàëè, èõ çíà÷åíèå áóäåò ïðîäîëæàòü
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îêàçûâàòü ãëóáîêîå âëèÿíèå òàì, ãäå ìû íàõîäèì èì ïðèìåíåíèå,
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áóäü ýòî â ñîâðåìåííîé çàïàäíîé êóëüòóðå èëè â òðîïè÷åñêèõ ëåñàõ Àìàçîíêè.
207
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Ýòî áûëî â 50-å, ñ ïîìîùüþ öåðêâè Àéîóàñêà íà÷àëà ïðîñà÷èâàòüñÿ â ìàññû.
208
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Ýòî áûëî ïåðåõîäîì îò êóëüòóðû êîðåííûõ èíäåéöåâ
ê êóëüòóðå èõ ïîòîìêîâ - ìåòèñîâ, ïðîæèâàþùèõ â ãîðîäàõ
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è ïîòîì ê ê öåðêâÿì - öåðêâè Santo Daime è öåðêâè UDV.
210
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Ïîçæå íà÷àëè ïðîâîäèòü öåðåìîíèè, êîòîðûå äåëàëè
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Àéîóàñêó äîñòóïíîé íå òîëüêî êîðåííûì èíäåéöàì,
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íî è ëþäÿì ïðîæèâàþùèì â áîëüøèõ ãîðîäàõ,
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êîòîðûå òàê æå äàëåêè îò øàìàíîâ êàê è ìû.
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 íà÷àëå 1990-õ ãîäîâ öåðêîâü UDV
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îñíîâàëà ñâîé ôèëèàë â Ñîåäèíåííûõ Øòàòàõ.
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 êîíöå 90-õ òàìîæåííàÿ ñëóæáà ÑØÀ âìåñòå ñ äåïàðòàìåíòîì
ïî áîðüáå ñ íàðêîòèêàìè ïåðåõâàòèëè ïàðòèþ àéîóàñêè.
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Öåðêîâü îñóäèëà äåéñòâèÿ ïðàâèòåëüñòâà, òàê êàê ïî èõ çàÿâëåíèþ âëàñòè
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íàðóøèëè àêò î ñâîáîäå ðåëèãèè.
219
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Äåëî ñëóøàëîñü â Âåðõîâíîì ñóäå ÑØÀ, è â ôåâðàëå 2006 ãîäà
220
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ñóäüè áûëè åäèíîãëàñíû è âñòàëè íà ñòîðîíó UDV.
221
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Ïî÷åìó âî âñåì çàïàäíîì ìèðå, ýòè âåùåñòâà, êîòîðûå èñïîëüçîâàëèñü
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ñîòíÿìè ðàçëè÷íûõ êóëüòóð òûñÿ÷è ëåò ïîïàäàþò ïîä çàïðåò?
223
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Êàê ýòè êóëüòóðû, êîòîðûå ñ÷èòàþò ñåáÿ ïðîñâåùåííûìè
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äåìîêðàòè÷íûìè è íàó÷íûìè, ìîãóò îáüÿâèòü ðàñòåíèÿ "íåçàêîííûìè"?
225
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Ýòî ìîæåò âûãëÿäåòü íåëåïî, íî çäåñü ÿâíî åñòü ÷òî-òî ãëóáèííîå è îáëè÷èòåëüíîå
226
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î ïðèðîäå ýòèõ ñîîáùåñòâ.
227
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Íàøå îáùåñòâî ñ÷èòàåò, ÷òî ñîçíàíèå íóæíî äëÿ íàñóùíûõ äåë,
228
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è îáåñöåíèâàåò âñå îñòàëüíûå ñîñòîÿíèÿ ñîçíàíèÿ.
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Ëþáîé äðóãîé âèä ñîçíàíèÿ, êîòîðûé íå ñâÿçàí
230
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ñ ïðîèçâîäñòâîì è ïîòðåáëåíèåì ìàòåðèàëüíûõ áëàã
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ñåãîäíÿ êëåéìèòñÿ â íàøåì îáùåñòâå.
232
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Êîíå÷íî, ìû ïðèíèìàåì ïüÿíñòâî.
233
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Ìû ïîçâîëÿåì ëþäÿì êðàòêóþ ïåðåäûøêó îò ìàòåðèàëüíîé ìîëîòüáû.
234
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Îáùåñòâî, êîòîðîå ïîääåðæèâàåò ýòó ìîäåëü,
235
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îñóæäàåò ñîñòîÿíèÿ ñîçíàíèÿ,
236
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êîòîðûå íå èìåþò íè÷åãî îáùåãî ñ ìåíòàëüíîñòüþ,
äåëàþùåé ðåøåíèå ïðîáëåì ñâîåé ñàìîöåëüþ.
237
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È åñëè âû âåðíåòåñü ê 1960-ì ãîäàì, êîãäà áûëî
îãðîìíîå êîëëè÷åñòâî èññëåäîâàíèé ïñèõîäåëèêîâ
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ß ñêàçàë áû, ÷òî ñëåäîâàëà îáðàòíàÿ ðåàêöèÿ,
ïðè÷èíîé êîòîðîé áûë ñòðàõ âëàñòü èìóùèõ, ÷òî
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åñëè äîñòàòî÷íîå êîëè÷åñòâî ëþäåé
ñîïðèêîñíåòñÿ ñ ýòèì è ïðèîáðåòåò òðàíñöåíäåíòíûé îïûò,
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ñàìî îáùåñòâî ïðåòåðïèò êîðåííûå èçìåíåíèÿ
241
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è ÷òî áîëåå âàæíî,
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ëþäè íàõîäÿùèåñÿ ó âëàñòè ïîòåðÿþò åå.
243
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Òîò îïòèìèçì áûë ñëèøêîì îòîðâàí îò æèçíè.
244
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øëà Âüåòíàìñêàÿ âîéíà, è âñå òàêîå
245
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è ïñèõîäåëè÷åñêîå äâèæåíèå ïî ñóòè íå áûëî îáðàùåíî ê ýòèì ïðîáëåìàì.
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È ýòîò Òèìîòè (Ëèðè) è åãî êîìàíäà
ïðîïîâåäîâàëè èäåè, êîòîðûå íà äåëå íå ðàáîòàëè.
247
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Ñåé÷àñ, õîòèì ìû ýòîãî èëè íåò, ïñèõîõèìè÷åñêàÿ ýïîõà.
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 áóäóùåì, íå áóäåò âàæíî òî, êàêóþ êíèãó âû ïðî÷èòàëè,
áóäåò âàæíî òî, êàêèå õèìè÷åñêèå âåùåñòâà âû èñïîëüçóåòå
249
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÷òîáû îòêðûâàòü èëè çàêðûâàòü ñîçíàíèå.
250
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Õèìè÷åñêèå âåùåñòâà ïîìîãóò íàì ó÷èòüñÿ áûñòðåå, õèìè÷åñêèå âåùåñòâà ïîìîãóò íàì
251
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ðàñøèðÿòü è ñóæàòü íàøå ñîçíàíèå.
252
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Àòìîñôåðà â 1960-õ ãîäîâ áûëà
253
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"Ìû èññëåäóåì îêðóæàþùèé íàñ ìèð, ìû ïîñâÿùàåì íàøè æèçíè
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ïîïûòêàì âñå ïîïðîáîâàòü íà ýòîé ïëàíåòå."
255
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Ìû ïîïðîáîâàëè ñäåëàòü ýòî, è ìû áóäåì ãîâîðèòü î òîì, ÷òî ìû îöåíèëè.
256
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Ìû ñ÷èòàëè ñåáÿ íè ìíîãî íè ìàëî "äóõîâíûìè ïåðâîïðîõîäöàìè"
257
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ß âèæó 60-å, êàê íåóäàâøóþñÿ ïîïûòêó
258
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ìàññîâîé êóëüòóðíîé èíèöèàöèè.
259
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Ëþäè, êàê âû çíàåòå, ïîïûòàëèñü âûéòè çà ïðåäåëû
ýòîé ðåàëüíîñòè, íî îíè íå èìåëè çà ñîáîé
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ìóäðîñòè òðàäèöèé, ñòàðåéøèí, íå áûëî ñâÿçåé ñ øàìàíñêèìè ëèíèÿìè ïåðåäà÷è.
261
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Ëþäè ïîäðîñëè è îíè áûëè êàê áû ðàçáèòû ïîðîçíü
262
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Òèìîòè Ëèðè äåéñòâèòåëüíî äèñêðåäèòèðîâàë íàó÷íûé ïîäõîä ê èçó÷åíèþ ýòîãî
263
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îí íà÷àë ïðîâîäèòü èíòåðåñíûå èññëåäîâàíèÿ, è çàòåì
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âñòàë íà çàùèòó èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ïñèõîäåëèêîâ, ÷òî áûëî âåñüìà óãðîæàþùå.
Ñ êóëüòóðíîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ îáùåñòâî îòðåàãèðîâàëî
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è âñëåäñòâèå äåéñòâèé ïðàâèòåëüñòâà
ñòàëî íåâîçìîæíî ïðîâîäèòü äàëüíåéøèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ.
266
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Ôèíàíñèðîâàíèå ïåðåñòàëî âûäåëÿòüñÿ, êîíòðîëèðóþùèå îðãàíû
267
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÷èíèëè âñå áîëüøå ïðåïÿòñòâèé íà÷àëó òàêîãî ðîäà èññëåäîâàíèé.
268
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È ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî ëþäè, èìåâøèå èíòåðåñ ê ïîäîáíûì èññëåäîâàíèÿì
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áûëè äèñêðåäèòèðîâàíû
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èç-çà ñâîåãî èíòåðåñà.
271
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Ñîöèàëüíûå, ïîëèòè÷åñêèå è íàó÷íûå ïðîáëåìû, îáúåäèíèâøèñü
272
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ñìîãëè âûòåñíèòü ýòè íàðêîòèêè èç íàó÷íîé ñôåðû.
273
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Îáùåñòâåííîå ìíåíèå íà÷àëî ñêëîíÿòüñÿ ê òîìó,
÷òî èññëåäîâàíèÿ ïñèõîäåëèêîâ îïàñíû.
274
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Øèðîêàÿ îáùåñòâåííîñòü áûëà â íåâåäåíèè îá èñòèííîé ïðèðîäå ýòèõ ñîåäèíåíèé
275
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è î òîì, ÷òî â íèõ ìîæåò áûòü êëþ÷ ê ïîíèìàíèþ è âîñïðèÿòèþ ñåáÿ.
276
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Äëÿ ìåíÿ îäíîé èç òðàãåäèé ÿâëÿåòñÿ òî,
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÷òî êëèíè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ ýòèõ âåùåñòâ ïî÷òè ïîëíîñòüþ
278
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îñòàíîâèëèñü ïðèìåðíî â 1970 ãîäó.
279
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È äëÿ ìåíÿ ýòî îñîáåííî òðàãè÷íî, ïîòîìó ÷òî ÿ
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äåéñòâèòåëüíî âåðþ, ÷òî ýòè âåùåñòâà èãðàþò âàæíóþ ðîëü
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â ðàçâèòèè íàøåé ôèëîñîôèè
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è ìûøëåíèÿ âî âñåì ìèðå.
283
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Ìíîæåñòâî ëþäåé íå îñîçíàåò, ÷òî ïñèõèàòðèÿ âïëîòü äî 50-õ
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â ñâîåé âíóòðåííåé ïðèðîäå íå èìåëà ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ î òîì, ÷òî
285
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íåéðîõèìèÿ èãðàåò êàêóþ áû òî íè áûëî ðîëü â ýìîöèÿõ èëè ïîâåäåíèè
286
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÷òî ñåãîäíÿ âûãëÿäèò äîâîëüíî ñòðàííî.
287
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È îòêðûòèå ËÑÄ è åãî ñèëüíîäåéñòâóþùèõ ýôôåêòîâ íà ÷åëîâå÷åñêóþ ïñèõèêó
288
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ïðîèçîøëî ïî÷òè îäíîâðåìåííî ñ îòêðûòèåì ñåðîòîíèíà
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êàê ìîëåêóëû â ìîçãó.
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È ñòàëî î÷åâèäíî, êîãäà ëþäè âçãëÿíóëè íà ñòðóêòóðó ñåðîòîíèíà
291
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è ñðàâíèëè åå ñ ËÑÄ, è çàäóìàëèñü:
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"Íàâåðíîå, íåéðîõèìèÿ èãðàåò ðîëü â õèìèè ìîçãà è ïîâåäåí÷åñêèõ
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ñîñòîÿíèÿõ". Åñëè áû ËÑÄ íå áûëî îòêðûòî, ÿ ñîìíåâàþñü, ÷òî ìû áû èìåëè
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ëåêàðñòâà, à åñëè á è èìåëè, òî íå òàê áûñòðî,
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íàïðèìåð òå, êîòîðûå ó íàñ åñòü ñåãîäíÿ äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ äåïðåññèè è òàê äàëåå.
296
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Êàê òîëüêî íà÷àëèñü ãîíåíèÿ ýòèõ âåùåñòâ, ïñèõèàòðû ñòàëè ñòàðàòüñÿ
297
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äèñòàíöèðîâàòüñÿ îò ëþáûõ íàó÷íûõ âçàèìîîòíîøåíèé ñ ïñèõîäåëèêàìè
298
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Áûòü ïñèõèàòðîì è ãîâîðèòü, ÷òî òû õî÷åøü èçó÷àòü ïñèõîäåëèêè -
ýòî íå òî ÷òî íîðìàëüíî âîñïðèíèìàåòñÿ îáùåñòâîì.
299
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È îäíàæäû ÿ îòìåòèë, ÷òî
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ÿ áûë äåéñòâèòåëüíî îáåñêóðàæåí òåì, ÷òî ïîäíÿë ýòó òåìó ñïóñòÿ ñòîëüêî ëåò.
301
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Ïî êóëüòóðíûì ïðè÷èíàì
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áûëè ïðåêðàùåíû êëèíè÷åñêèå èñïûòàíèÿ öåëîãî êëàññà ñîåäèíåíèé
303
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è íè îäíî èññëåäîâàíèå íå ïðîèñõîäèëî â òå÷åíèå 40 ëåò.
304
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Ñ íàó÷íîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ, ÿ íå ìîãó
ïðåäñòàâèòü áîëåå çàõâàòûâàþùóþ îáëàñòü äëÿ èçó÷åíèÿ.
305
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Êàê ìîæíî çàíèìàòüñÿ èññëåäîâàíèåì ýòèõ ðàñòåíèé è ñîåäèíåíèé?
306
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Ðàñòåíèÿ è ñîåäèíåíèÿ, êîòîðûå ïðåäîñòàâëÿþò íåâîîáðàçèìûé îïûò
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è ìîãóò ïðîëèòü ñâåò íà îäíó èç âåëè÷àéøèõ òàéí ÷åëîâå÷åñòâà.
308
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Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû îòâåòèòü íà ýòîò âîïðîñ,
309
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Äîêòîð Ñòðàññìàí ïðîâåë ïåðâîå
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ïñèõîäåëè÷åñêîå èññëåäîâàíèå íà ÷åëîâåêå çà ïîñëåäíåå ïîêîëåíèå.
311
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Îäíîé èç âåùåé, íà êîòîðóþ ÿ â ñàìîì íà÷àëå îáðàòèë âíèìàíèå, áûëà ðàçíèöà
312
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ìåæäó èçó÷åíèåì â íàó÷íûõ êðóãàõ è èñïîëüçîâàíèåì â ðåêðåàöèîííûõ öåëÿõ.
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Íî â ðàííèõ 80-õ ÿ èçó÷èë âñþ ýòó ëèòåðàòóðó è áûë óáåæä¸í â òîì,
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÷òî åñëè èñïûòóåìûå ïðîøëè îòáîð,
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è ïðè ñîîòâåòñòâóþùåì êîíòðîëå õîäà ýêñïåðèìåíòà,
èíöèäåíòû è íåãàòèâíûå ðåàêöèè íà ËÑÄ
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è ïîõîæèå ïñèõîäåëèêè áûëè êðàéíå ðåäêè.
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Ïðåïàðàò èëè ñîåäèíåíèå èëè õèìèêàò êîòîðûé ëó÷øå âñåãî ïîäõîäèë áû
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äëÿ òîãî ÷òî áû âîçîáíîâèòü ïñèõîäåëè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ â ÑØÀ, áûë áû ÄÌÒ.
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Äëÿ ìåíÿ áûëî î÷åíü çàõâàòûâàþùå äóìàòü, ÷òî ýòî ïåðâîå èññëåäîâàíèå
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â ïîêîëåíèè, è íå òîëüêî.
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Íåñìîòðÿ íà òî ÷òî ÄÌÒ ðàíåå áûë áëàãîïîëó÷íî èñïîëüçîâàí â èññëåäîâàíèÿõ
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è ÷òî îí ÿâëÿåòñÿ åñòåñòâåííûì êîìïîíåíòîì ìîçãà,
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ÄÌÒ îäèí èç ñàìûõ ãëóáîêèõ è ñèëüíûõ èçâåñòíûõ ïñèõîäåëèêîâ.
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Ýòî áûëî íå ïðîñòî íà÷àëî êëèíè÷åñêèõ èñïûòàíèé -
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ýòî áûëî âîçîáíîâëåíèå èññëåäîâàíèé ñèëüíûõ íàðêîòèêîâ.
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ß áûë òâåðäî óâåðåí â òîì, ÷òî ýòè èññëåäîâàíèÿ âîçìîæíû
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è Ðèê ñîãëàñèëñÿ, ìû ïðèñòóïèëè ê îáñóæäåíèþ
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è, çíàåòå, â êàêîé-òî ìîìåíò îáñóæäåíèå ïîäîøëî âîò ê ÷åìó:
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"Äåéâ, ÷òî åñëè ÿ ïðîâåðíó âñþ ýòó áþðîêðàòèþ è ïîòðà÷ó âðåìÿ íà ïîäãîòîâêó
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è áóäó ãîòîâ íà÷àòü èññëåäîâàíèå, à ÄÌÒ ïîëó÷èòü íå ñìîãó?"
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È ýòî áûëî âïîëíå âîçìîæíî, âåäü ÄÌÒ, ñåðûé ìåäèöèíñêèé ÄÌÒ
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íå áûë ðàñïðîñòðàíåííûì ðåàãåíòîì, ñòîÿùèì â îæèäàíèè íà ïîëî÷êå.
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È ÿ ñêàçàë Ðèêó: "Åñëè òû äîéäåøü äî ýòîãî ìîìåíòà,
è íèêòî íå ñìîæåò ïîëó÷èòü åãî äëÿ òåáÿ,
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òî ýòî ñäåëàþ ÿ".
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 êîíöå êîíöîâ, Ðèê äîáèëñÿ, è ÿ ïîëó÷èë âåùåñòâî.
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Ïëàí èññëåäîâàíèé áûë äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòûì:
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äàâàòü ëþäÿì ÄÌÒ è èçìåðÿòü êàê ìîæíî áîëüøå ïîêàçàòåëåé.
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ß, ìîæíî ñêàçàòü, ïðåäâèäåë ìíîæåñòâî âîçìîæíûõ âîçðàæåíèé
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îò ãîñóäàðñòâåííûõ îðãàíîâ, êîòîðûå íàáëþäàþò çà òàêîãî ðîäà èññëåäîâàíèÿìè.
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Ñ ýòîãî ìîìåíòà íà÷àëñÿ äâóõãîäè÷íûé ïðîöåññ âçàèìîäåéñòâèÿ
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ñ ðåãóëèðóþùèìè îðãàíàìè, íå ñòîëüêî ìíîãî÷èñëåííûìè, ñêîëüêî íåïîêîëåáèìûìè.
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Îäíèì èç ïîáî÷íûõ òðåáîâàíèé äëÿ ïðîòîêîëà,
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áûëî âîâëå÷åíèå ïñèõèàòðà ïî èìåíè Äýíèåë Ôðèìàí èç
Êàëèôîðíèéñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà â Ëîñ-Àíäæåëåñå.
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Îí áûë îäíèì èç âåëèêèõ ñòàðåéøèí àìåðèêàíñêîé ïñèõèàòðèè
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È ôàêòè÷åñêè îí áûë îäíèì èç ëþäåé êîòîðûå â 50-å è 60-å ãîäà
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íà÷àë ñâîè ïñèõîäåëè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ.
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È ãëàâíîå î ÷åì Äàíèåëü Ôðèìàí ñêàçàë Ðèêó è íàì:
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"Äàæå íå ïðèáëèæàéñÿ ê ïñèõîòåðàïèè"
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"Çàáóäü î ëå÷åíèè ïñèõè÷åñêèõ íåäóãîâ, àëêîãîëèçìà è îáî âñåì äðóãîì"
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"Çàáóäü îá ýòîì. Ýòî òî, ÷òî íàãíåòàåò èñòåðèþ è ñòðàõ"
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"Òû ó÷åíûé, Ðèê. Ïîäõîäè ê ýòîìó êàê ó÷åíûé"
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Äåëàé áàçîâûå ïðîñòûå çàìåðû, ñëåäè çà ÷àñòîòîé ñåðäå÷íûõ ñîêðàùåíèé,
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