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pavligd · 16-Мар-10 11:53 (16 лет 4 месяца назад, ред. 16-Мар-10 19:22)

Pyogenesis Mono ... or will it ever be the way it used to be
Жанр: Alternative\Pop\Punk
Год выпуска диска: 1998
Производитель диска: Germany
Аудио кодек: FLAC
Тип рипа: image+.cue
Битрейт аудио: lossless
Продолжительность: 48 min
Трэклист:
1. Fake It 03:43
2. Drive Me Down 03:05
3. She's the Bomb 03:15
4. You Push Me 02:22
5. Will It Ever Be 02:27
6. I Thought 02:29
7. Just Ironic 02:05
8. Would You Take 04:11
9. The Needs 02:53
10. My Saline Eyes 04:21
11. I Remember 04:43
12. In Spite of It 03:54
13. Africa 04:08
Доп. информация: Label: Nuclear Blast (Ger)
Members: Flo V. Schwarz, Tim Eiermann, Wolle Maier, Peter Rutard
ВСЕ СООБЩЕНИЯ, ВОПРОСЫ ЧТО-НИБУДЬ ДОБАВИТЬ, ДОБАВИТЬ СКОРОСТИ, РАЗДАТЬ ПИШИТЕ В ЛС.
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Буклет такой. Четыре листа складываются пополам, получается буклет. Сканировал в следующем порядке: внешняя сторона первого внешнего листа (т.е. обложки), потом внутренняя сторона этого листа. Далее внешняя сторона следующего второго листа, внутренняя следующего и т.д.
Lyrics
Fake It
Leaving me without a trace
You couldn't see my weeping face
I would call this real unfair
That's when you were gone somewhere
For what seems real - we try to heal
Now what's the point and what's the deal
A big impact - the way you act
That's what I hate -you were so fake
CH.:
Fake it.Fake it. Don't you have to
Fake it.Fake it. Don't you have to
Well,I know it seems delayed
That I'm facing me betrayed
I would call this real unfair
That's when you were going somewhere
What's inbetween you haven't seen
You don't know how it's been
A big impact -the way you act
That's what I hate -you were so fake
CH.:
Fake it.Fake it. Don't you have to
Fake it.Fake it. Don't you have to
Drive Me Down
Taking me into the sky
I'll try to hold my hands up high
Isn't that what you said I've forgotten?
Everything seems clear, everything so real
Everything's so overwhelming,don't you know
This is what they say
that's what they say that's what they say
CH.:
You drive me down, down, down
And you 're dragging me around, and round
You're not gonna take good care of me
You 're not gonna do it defenitely
You drive me down
Searching for a second way
Another day I'll try to stay
You don't really what I've been trying
Everything seems clear ,everything so real
Everything's so overwhelming,don't you know
This is what they say
that's what they say that's what they say
CH.:
You drive me down, down, down
And you 're dragging me around, and round
You're not gonna take good care of me
You 're not gonna do it defenitely
You drive me down
She´s the bomb
I'm wishing for the rain to come
Don't waste our time, too much to say
Oh, I'm so tired ,can't overlook
The way you sometimes act
1CH.:
Baby, rock me, don't be lazy
I really hope you will 'coz I need the thrill
My lady-she's the bomb
Right here, right now I like it raw
I´d like to burn it. Yes I want more
A shameless lady, friend or foe
Too high to touch me low
1CH.:
Baby, rock me, don't be lazy
I really hope you will 'coz I need the thrill
My lady-she's the bomb
2CH.:
Du dub dub dub dub
Du dub dub dub dub
Du dub dub dub dub doe
I will let you down today
Please let me help to find your way
A shameless lady, friend or foe
Too high to touch me low
1CH.:
Baby, rock me, don't be lazy
I really hope you will 'coz I need the thrill
My lady-she's the bomb
2CH.:
Du dub dub dub dub
Du dub dub dub dub
Du dub dub dub dub doe
You push me
I've got to go - I've got to care
You 've got to know - You 've got to share
You wanted me to stand behind
I didn't want to be unkind
When I was fair - you try to cheat
Don't give me back that real hot heat
You 're not the one I wanna be
The one who suffers endlessly
CH.:
You wanna push me back
Who the hell d'you think you are, now
No need to think you were the last
No need to sink into the past
You weren't trying to prove some things
But you were lying to be the king
When I was fair - you try to cheat
Don't give me back that real hot heat
You 're not the one I wanna be
The one who suffers endlessly
CH.:
You wanna push me back
Who the hell d'you think you are, now
Will It Ever Be
Hold you close but you can´t feel
What it means to be inside
And I feel: Tension pull me down!
Pull me down! Down and out.
I hate to say and I can´t stand
Things get out of hand
Will it ever be
Will it ever be the way it used to be
I don´t know
Will it ever be the way it used to be
Confirm my will
I watched you turn the other way
Just some words for you
Some words for you my friend
I hate to say and I can´t stand
Things get out of hand
Will it ever be
Will it ever be the way it used to be
I don´t know
Will it ever be the way it used to be
I thought
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
Just never let you, I'd never let you go away
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
You called me once, you called me twice
And I thought this was your disguise
But you wanted to meet me all alone
You wanted to meet me
Things I've made you couldn't take
And that's what it's been
But now it's too late for
Regretting every single day
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
Just never let you, I'd never let you go away
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
I know, that I have to go
I will never come back and I want to assure you
That it's not worth to creep along
Not worth anymore now
There's something without any sin
To party with friends
Where you just live in it
It gives you more than girls can do
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
Just never let you, I'd never let you go away
I thought I, I'd never let you go away
Just Ironic
I´m gaining - no one can bring me down
I´m not feeling blue - feels good inside
Just believe in me like I believe in you
It´s getting better - I can soar so high
Everything´s so fine - It´s the time of my life
Just ironic - everything´s so fine
Just Ironic lyrics
Bad times came and they went away
Happiness - that´s easy to find
Everyone around is blessed with an open mind
It´s getting better - I can soar so high
Everything´s so fine - It´s the time of my life
Just ironic - everything´s so fine
Just Ironic lyrics
Just ironic, just ironic, just ironic lyrics
Just ironic - everything´s so fine
Just ironic - and it´s the time of my life
Just ironic - and everything´s so fine
Just Ironic lyrics
Would You Take
You know what´s in between, what you´ve ever seen
I show my innerself, show what I´ve always been
You´ll crash down don´t you, break me right in two
Break my confidence apart, yes you´ll do
I´ll break down once more, I´ll break you to the core
Now I know you cannot break my will to check old and more
Other´s stolen things will borrow other wings
And everything and everyone would take good care
Would you take, would you take, would you take it away
Would you take it away, they cannot do what´s up to you
You´ll find me everywhere I´ll better take good care
You wouldn´t know no need to show that would be fair
You´ll crash down don´t you break me right in two
Break my confidence apart yes you´ll do
Here I go again nothing´s still the same
I thought to keep in mind the latest news and what you said
Open that door see the second shore
And Everything and everyone would take good care
Would you take, would you take, would you take it away
Would you take it away, they cannot do what´s up to you
My saline eyes
So much to say, so much would last for years
May be an answer could dry my mourning tears
Do you feel lost a million miles from home?
Do you have a place to go? Any peaceful place to go?
PreCH.:
Yeah, I remember you I always do
Too sweet to let you go
Can't hide my feelings, no
These words I wrote, I wrote for you
This song goes out to you
CH.:
Could you dry my saline eyes
Hopeful tears of care
I know - sometime we'll meet again
In Paradise, I swear
So hard to understand these doubtfull ways of God
Where's the answer to the question
I've never known Who answers me? And whom should I believe?
Do we have a place to stay? Any peaceful place to stay?
PreCH.:
Yeah, I remember you I always do
Too sweet to let you go
Can't hide my feelings, no
These words I wrote, I wrote for you
This song goes out to you
CH.:
Could you dry my saline eyes
Hopeful tears of care
I know - sometime we'll meet again
In Paradise, I swear
The Needs
Underneath the open sky
Hypnotize the needs
And this is it, A little bit,
Of mine you have to feed
Begging 'please give me some more'
Anything you have....
Suddenly the suffering
smacked me up again
PreCH.:
She's the One She's the One
The thing that holds my hand again
Tears me now apart
Now we'll see what time will bring
It's what I'll hate the most
I'm so cold can taste the fear
Caressing the old
Suddenly the suffering
smacked me up again
PreCH.:
She's the One She's the One
CH.:
Begging 'please give me some more'
All the things I need
Anything you have to give
May be all your dreams
Let me give you what you need
Satisfy your needs
Drowning here in emptiness
No, you'll never bleed
I said, come and you should feel
Everything you feel is real
This damn hidden thing
Holds you up again
PreCH.:
She's the One She's the One
CH.:Begging 'please give me some more'
All the things I need
Anything you have to give
May be all your dreams
I'm so deep in you my dear
Touching streams so low
Suddenly the hidden thing
smacked me up again
I Remember
We were talking about our lives
We were talking about everything
Still we had the same drives
To prove, stand still and to spin
But sweet black emotions, darling
Let us drift far away
When we want to end up sober,
trying not to be unfair, anywhere
I remember you - the spirit´s all around
I remember you - the spirit´s all around
Quest for drives, quest for us two
Quest for honestly everything
Not the same as it used to
Be whatever you want
But sweet black emotions, darling
Let us drift far away
When we want to end up sober,
trying not to be unfair, anywhere
I remember you - the spirit´s all around
I remember you - the spirit´s all around
Africa
I hear the drums echoin' tonight
but she hears only whispers of some quiet conversation
she's coming in, twelve-thirty flight.
Her moonlight wings reflect the stars that guide me toward salvation
I stopped an old man along the way,
hoping to find some old forgotten words or ancient melodies
he turns to me as if to say: hurry boy it's waiting there for you
it's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
there's nothing but a hundred men or more could ever do
I bless the rains down in africa
gonna take some time to do the things we never had
Wild dogs cry out in the night
as the grow restless longing for some solitary company
I know that Imust do whats right
As sure as kilimanjaro rises like olympus above the serengeti
I seem to cure whats deep inside
frightened of this thing that I've become
it's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
there's nothing but a hundred man or more could ever do
I bless the rains down in africa
gonna take some time to do the things we never had
In spite of it
Don't you wish our feelings will never go away
We burnt ourselves the day you said
You wouldn't stay one minute more
All our dreams and wishes, I don't think it's fair
To end it that way, a careless way
A well-known voice, anyway so cold
The youngest once, in spite of it so old
Remember what we had for many years to come
Now all is crashing down you said
You wouldn't stay one minute more
Broken dreams and wishes, I don't think it's fair
To end it that way, a careless way
A well-known voice, anyway so cold
The youngest once, in spite of it so old
IT'S OK
Yes I've learned this from you my dear
How it should be and what can I say
I want it all what I've never got
It's all ok, yeah it's not so bad
It comes now
It's ok, it's ok, everything's ok
What can I say about the day
It's ok, it's ok, everything's ok
Every day the same old story
I've never said I'm tough enough
On rainy days, low depressive mood
And I know, you don't mind, you don't care at all
Like the way you talked before nearly rotten to the core
It comes now
It's ok, it's ok, everything's ok
What can I say about the day
It's ok, it's ok, everything's ok
Every day the same old story
You wanted me and you got my butt, baby
You couldn't see any gutters shut, baby
You wanted all and you got my money
You are my sweetheart, you are my honey
It comes now
It's ok, it's ok, everything's ok
What can I say about the day
It's ok, it's ok, everything's ok
Every day the same old story
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d25 · 16-Мар-10 13:12 (спустя 1 час 19 мин.)

pavligd
Настройки XLD отличаются от рекомендованных, сделайте, пожалуйста, рип по правилам - https://rutr.life/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1088526
В оформление для потрековых рипов также нужно включать содержание cue-файла.
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pavligd · 16-Мар-10 13:40 (спустя 27 мин.)

ВСЕМ КАЧАЮЩИМ
В общем не правильные настройки следующие
не включено "проверять перед копированием"
не включено "сканировать с помощью ReplayGain"
Если кому имеет значение, не качайте. На результат эти настройки никак не влияют.
Рипать заново не буду.
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d25 · 16-Мар-10 13:59 (спустя 19 мин., ред. 16-Мар-10 14:05)

pavligd
Вопрос по cue снят, не заметил, что рип образом. Редко в XLD рипы образом можно увидеть.
PS Так трудно один раз настроить все по правилам? Рип хороший, судя по AccurateRip совпадению, а если бы его не было? Этого не я требую, а правила.
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d25 · 16-Мар-10 14:04 (спустя 4 мин., ред. 16-Мар-10 14:04)

опция по ReplayGain не является "неправильной" (но является общепринятой)
Неправильные опции -
"Maximum Retry Count" (должно быть 100)
"проверять перед копированием" (должно быть включено)
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pavligd · 16-Мар-10 14:27 (спустя 23 мин.)

да я не упираюсь. просто не хочу делать заново, т.к. результат будет тот же. буду еще че нить выкладывать, сделаю по образцу.
по replaygain кстати вопрос: это относится к выравниванию громкости? в настройках eac, например, галку с этой штуки надо снимать. в xld ставить. это как? или это разные функции?
проверять перед копированием тоже никаким образом на результат не влияет. профыч написал инструкцию, нахерачил по максимуму настроек влюченных и всё. то что некоторые из них не нужны, никто не смотрел, теперь и пошло с его инструкции всё надо включать.
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d25 · 16-Мар-10 15:00 (спустя 33 мин.)

pavligd
нет, это не "нормализация", а просто определение уровня громкости трека (типа PeakLevel в EAC). С помощью replaygain (зная его) можно управлять громкостью трека.
Replay Gain
также по replaygain можно сравнивать один рип с другим (другим изданием).
Настройки Профыч не сам придумал ;), это рекомендации всех крупнейших мировых музыкальных трекеров и сайтов типа гидрогена. Я могу попытаться объяснить необходимость каждого пункта, если надо
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pavligd · 16-Мар-10 15:30 (спустя 29 мин.)

да не, не надо. если он в инструкцию описания настроек добавит, будет полезно и интересно.
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jackyl · 16-Мар-10 16:32 (спустя 1 час 2 мин.)

Спасибо! Первый раз этот альбом вижу в lossless.
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pavligd · 16-Мар-10 17:02 (спустя 30 мин., ред. 16-Мар-10 17:02)

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Спасибо! Первый раз этот альбом вижу в lossless.
купил на тверской в трансильвании году в 2004-2005. нашел не понять как по каким то каталогам. более нигде и никогда его не видел.
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bugso215 · 31-Мар-10 10:20 (спустя 14 дней)

Спасибо большое, клёвый старый альбом, да ещё и в нормальном лосслесс! Респект!
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Creepin · 03-Апр-10 22:11 (спустя 3 дня)

Поддайте газку, коллеги, а то я так буду коврики пару суток скачивать
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akino-s · 26-Янв-11 17:31 (спустя 9 месяцев, ред. 26-Янв-11 17:31)

спасибо! отличный альбом, бодрый и мелодичный не то что предыдущий
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m0rg0th · 09-Июл-11 23:58 (спустя 5 месяцев 14 дней)

Альбом действительно стоящий! Когда Pyogenesis были в Москве, купил у них на концерте этот дисочек за 300 руб. всего. Судя по постам диск не часто можно встретить в магазинах)
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sunshinejustintime · 14-Дек-11 18:42 (спустя 5 месяцев 4 дня)

эээээх... найти бы P... Or Different Songs In Different Sounds
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40h13 · 18-Сен-12 03:20 (спустя 9 месяцев, ред. 18-Сен-12 03:20)

Ребят, я слушал этот альб на мк в миксе с The Cranberries. Там ещ была песня I just shot John Lennon. Это офф. сборник или самодеятельность орлов с Кар.Дач/Горбушки?
еще б и на раздаче хто-нить...тока у меня 100кбит, мне долго надо...
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pavligd · 29-Ноя-12 13:06 (спустя 2 месяца 11 дней)

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55267724Ребят, я слушал этот альб на мк в миксе с The Cranberries. Там ещ была песня I just shot John Lennon. Это офф. сборник или самодеятельность орлов с Кар.Дач/Горбушки?
еще б и на раздаче хто-нить...тока у меня 100кбит, мне долго надо...
Что в раздаче, это оф. пластинка.
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shaitn · 28-Авг-13 00:43 (спустя 8 месяцев)

http://www.discogs.com/Cranberries-To-The-Faithful-Departed/master/51360
I just shot John Lennon песня земляничек.
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mr.samarenko · 24-Ноя-16 12:50 (спустя 3 года 2 месяца)

Благодарю! Их лучший альбом! Аналогично с pavligd приобрел и слушал на кассете, после того как открыл для себя и начал интересоваться участниками группы Liquido, выходцами из PYOGENESIS!
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Sakahiter · 21-Фев-20 18:58 (спустя 3 года 2 месяца)

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71889230Благодарю! Их лучший альбом! Аналогично с pavligd приобрел и слушал на кассете, после того как открыл для себя и начал интересоваться участниками группы Liquido, выходцами из PYOGENESIS!
Да-да, тоже кассету в свое время покупал. Затаскал её как только мог.
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