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compixulo

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compixulo · 04-Окт-24 17:32 (1 год назад)

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86779862A sad story of one brave Dutch HQ that couldn't.
Background: PzC France'40 (4.04 version), The Five Days War scenario.
Okay fellas please take a moment of your time and take a look at the picture hidden under the spoiler. Check out that brave little Dutch HQ trying to do the undoable. Yeah, that's right, the one marked by a red square.
A lil' bit more info on what's going on here. We have one of those classic Full-Hex Ferrie WDS nonsense situations. Dutch side can see that hex adjacent to Full-Hex Ferrie is occupied by German pioneer company, I know that because Dutch arty units are firing at those pioneers. German unit is in improved position, it's neither disrupted nor broken and yet Dutch HQ is trying to reach and storm that hex.
Lemme summarize: unsuited unit is trying to perform an impossible mission.
I gust gotta ask - what kind of AI is that?
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Yes, indeed it is a really stupid behaviour for the AI. I have checked and you are right, the Dutch was able to see the hex on the other side of the river. I think they have polished the AI in the 4.05 patch.
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Mflopp

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Mflopp · 07-Окт-24 23:53 (спустя 3 дня, ред. 07-Окт-24 23:53)

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Yes, indeed it is a really stupid behaviour for the AI. I have checked and you are right, the Dutch was able to see the hex on the other side of the river. I think they have polished the AI in the 4.05 patch.
Yeah, my bad, should have provided more info on my unit. It's later in game, I moved pioneers and replaced 'em with infantry, but disposition is the same and on the unit panel you can see a small binocular mark which means they are *spotted*.
More details
Tbh I don't share your optimism on account of AI polishing. Let's take a look at another case of WDS nonsense.
First pic - French side with fog of war on.
Second pic - French side with fog of war off.
Napoleonica. Campaign Eckmuhl. Version 4.08.1 The Delay at Landshut scenario.
It's actually a fun one, classic bottleneck situation, Austrian side must push forward storming 2(!) bridges in a row. Tough task indeed, but we can see there's one more bridge providing an alternate route for Austrians. It's damaged, but the Austrian side has two pioneer companies with ability to repair the bridge. It takes time, but it's worth the effort especially in case of stalwart French defences. Also this "damaged bridge being repaired" situation in tactical sense widens that damn bottleneck for Austrians and provides both sides with plethora of possible actions and counter-actions. For example French side could move forward their skirmishers to harass and delay the works, Austrian side could roll all those guns up the hill...and so on...
...but, as you can see the Austrian AI has another plans for those irreplaceable pioneers - form a column and storm the city!
If you have played Napoleonic battles series then you know about a perfect tool for breaking through the infantry lines. Cavalry, with the "right place and time" rule applied, can wreak havoc upon infantry and overrun artillery batteries in one swift charge. Mounted units is a poor choice for city fighting you say? Sure! I fully agree with ya! Still better than pioneers armed with hammers and two-by-four planks!
Btw here you can see what's left of a full strength Austrian infantry unit after a short encounter on the Bridge of Death
UPD: Played the "historical" variant of "The Delay at Landshut" scenario on Austrian side and found out that it's absolutely essential to keep the pioneers out of harm's way. Initially the main bridge can support only infantry, which means arty, supply and cavalry units can't pass through. Pioneers must start repairs immediately after the infantry charge, otherwise a significant chunk of Austrian force would be just chillin' on their side of the river.
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pww · 08-Окт-24 18:54 (спустя 19 часов)

Help me search last version the War and Peace (Napoleons Eagles).
Помогите найти последнюю версию игры War and Peace (Napoleons Eagles).
Very thanks.
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halo_dk · 09-Окт-24 03:50 (спустя 8 часов)

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86779862Lemme summarize: unsuited unit is trying to perform an impossible mission.
I gust gotta ask - what kind of AI is that?
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The JTS/WDS AI has always been completely broken. It does okay-ish in very small scenarios (say, 10 turns our less), but anything larger than this and anyone with a basic grasp of military tactics, and the ability to speak in coherent sentences will run rings around the AI.
It has no concept of reserves, doesn't protect its flanks, uses the wrong units for the situation, will happily stay in Travel-mode despite being both spotted and shelled, completely ignores fatigue and supply concerns, and on and on.
Even worse is the fact that it's entirely scripted. Every move has been pre-programmed by the scenario designer.
Which means that campaign games (arguably the meat of the PzC series) is an exercise in futility. I don't care how good the designer may be, nobody can predict what the situation is a week in advance. And obviously, a scripted AI has zero replayability value.
And while the updates have sported AI upgrades, these have all been to the tactical AI, i.e. which units to shoot and at who, when to dig in etc.
There has been zero effort, by any of the IP owners, to come up with an alternative to the scripted strategic AI....Since 1999.....
Now, according to the WDS forum, they have hired the guy who did the AI for the JTS Campaign Series. Which is good news.
But it is going to take years for him to get something that even vaguely resembles a decent algorithm put together, so I wouldn't be holding my breath.
Until then, there are IMO only two ways to play the WDS games; Either against a human opponent, or hot-seat against yourself.
Playing the AI is like challenging a three year old to a game of chess.
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Mflopp

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Mflopp · 09-Окт-24 06:58 (спустя 3 часа)

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But it is going to take years for him to get something that even vaguely resembles a decent algorithm put together, so I wouldn't be holding my breath.
Until then, there are IMO only two ways to play the WDS games; Either against a human opponent, or hot-seat against yourself.
Playing the AI is like challenging a three year old to a game of chess.
Ditto! Exactly my point. The only difference is I wouldn't compare it to a game of chess, feels more like I've been challenged to take candy from a baby, but this 20+years old WDS kid is kinda slow and gives all the candy away by himself.
I have one more way of enjoying WDS scenarios - reading up upon a subject and not a moronic Wikipedia article but an actual book, preferably more than one - makes everything much more alive.
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Leveller

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Leveller · 10-Окт-24 14:51 (спустя 1 день 7 часов, ред. 06-Ноя-24 17:26)

@ pww
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6/11/24 последняя версия.
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bonypart · 10-Окт-24 16:05 (спустя 1 час 13 мин.)

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86153261Собрал в одном месте все доступные инсталляторы 4 версии игр WDS
https://archive.org/details/wds_msi
Уважаемый DemonikD, к сожалению, ссылка уже не действительна. Есть ли возможность повторить такую сборку с инсталляторами последних версий WDS? Или, может быть, кто-нибудь еще откликнется? Заранее благодарен.
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pww · 10-Окт-24 17:00 (спустя 55 мин.)

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86821767@ pww
Благодарю!
Best regards
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Stalinium

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Stalinium · 10-Окт-24 19:49 (спустя 2 часа 48 мин.)

Anybody have Warfighter Shadow War vassal module? Or any DVG vassal files?
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ldeza

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ldeza · 10-Окт-24 23:36 (спустя 3 часа)

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Уважаемый DemonikD, к сожалению, ссылка уже не действительна. Есть ли возможность повторить такую сборку с инсталляторами последних версий WDS? Или, может быть, кто-нибудь еще откликнется? Заранее благодарен.
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G.C.S.

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G.C.S. · 11-Окт-24 22:34 (спустя 22 часа)

Updates for First World War series just came out (the crack still works...)
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bonypart

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bonypart · 12-Окт-24 09:54 (спустя 11 часов)

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bonypart писал(а):
Уважаемый DemonikD, к сожалению, ссылка уже не действительна. Есть ли возможность повторить такую сборку с инсталляторами последних версий WDS? Или, может быть, кто-нибудь еще откликнется? Заранее благодарен.
Page 39.
Very thanks!
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ldeza

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ldeza · 12-Окт-24 15:17 (спустя 5 часов, ред. 12-Окт-24 15:17)

Kingdom Dungeon and Hero updated files uploaded in cs.rin forum. A previous version was released in the scene and now is old.
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Kingdom.Dungeon.And.Hero-Unleashed
Edit: uploaded also to Sk&R site.
Now, who is able to play it without steam running?
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Leveller

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Leveller · 12-Окт-24 17:49 (спустя 2 часа 32 мин., ред. 12-Окт-24 19:22)

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86830579Kingdom Dungeon and Hero updated files uploaded in cs.rin forum. A previous version was released in the scene and now is old.
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Kingdom.Dungeon.And.Hero-Unleashed
Edit: uploaded also to Sk&R site.
Now, who is able to play it without steam running?
Спасибо за это.
Я собирался спросить, есть ли у кого-нибудь последняя версия этой игры.
Чтобы запустить без Steam:
скачать Kingdom_Dungeon_and_Hero.7z и KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.29-Hotfix1_Build_16012780.7z
создать папку в Documents с именем KingdomDungeonAndHero
скопировать распакованный KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.29-Hotfix1_Build_16012780.7z в папку KingdomDungeonAndHero
заменить steam_api64.dll в KingdomDungeonAndHero_Data>Plugins>x86_64 на Goldberg steam_api64.dll
Вот что я сделал, и это работает без Steam.
Примечание: папка KingdomDungeonAndHero в Документах — это Documents>KingdomDungeonAndHero, а не Documents>My Games>KingdomDungeonAndHero.
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Thanks
I was going to ask if anyone had the latest version of this game.
To run without Steam:
download Kingdom_Dungeon_and_Hero.7z and KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.29-Hotfix1_Build_16012780.7z
make a folder in Documents named KingdomDungeonAndHero
copy unzipped KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.29-Hotfix1_Build_16012780.7z to KingdomDungeonAndHero folder
replace steam_api64.dll in KingdomDungeonAndHero_Data>Plugins>x86_64 with Goldberg steam_api64.dll
This is what I did and it works without Steam.
Note: the KingdomDungeonAndHero folder in Documents is Documents>KingdomDungeonAndHero not Documents>My Games>KingdomDungeonAndHero
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G.C.S.

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G.C.S. · 12-Окт-24 19:05 (спустя 1 час 15 мин., ред. 12-Окт-24 19:05)

If you have problems with some games which require an unmodified steam_api64.dll, get the Forts crack from here: Modify the ColdClientLoader.ini and the other ini files to the correct settings for your game. Copy the contents of the UNCRACKED game into the "game" folder and run it with steam.exe
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Andriyrev · 12-Окт-24 21:49 (спустя 2 часа 44 мин.)

G.C.S. писал(а):
86828431Updates for First World War series just came out (the crack still works...)
Where did you get new installers with updated version?
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ldeza

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ldeza · 12-Окт-24 22:11 (спустя 21 мин., ред. 12-Окт-24 22:11)

Thanks Leveller for the detailed post. But where do I get these files?
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Kingdom_Dungeon_and_Hero.7z
KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.29-Hotfix1_Build_16012780.7z
What I have is the Sk&R zip file.
Before editing the post I was requesting the links from cs.rin because I am not a member there.
The problem I see is the same posted by lanternjoe, the original uploader in cs.rin, that there is no menu, because not running the steam app at the same time.
G.C.S. писал(а):
86831943If you have problems with some games which require an unmodified steam_api64.dll, get the Forts crack from here: Modify the ColdClientLoader.ini and the other ini files to the correct settings for your game. Copy the contents of the UNCRACKED game into the "game" folder and run it with steam.exe
Thanks, not a member of cs.rin, so cannot download the file.
Andriyrev писал(а):
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G.C.S. писал(а):
86828431Updates for First World War series just came out (the crack still works...)
Where did you get new installers with updated version?
Page 39.
The last patches from WDS site.
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Leveller

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Leveller · 12-Окт-24 22:36 (спустя 25 мин., ред. 12-Окт-24 22:36)

@ Ideza
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https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137893&hilit=kingdom+dungeon+hero&start=15
Kingdom_Dungeon_and_Hero.7z
https://pixeldrain.com/u/xsKL9gpe
KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.29-Hotfix1_Build_16012780.7z
https://pixeldrain.com/u/GnyAH8hg
f.g.n. / Forts crack mentioned by G.C.S.
https://pixeldrain.com/u/AAdZAq3K
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ldeza

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ldeza · 12-Окт-24 22:57 (спустя 20 мин., ред. 12-Окт-24 22:57)

Thanks for the files Leveller.
I followed your instructions, however I see the same problem, no menu.
The Goldberg dll I use is this from 2023, is there another one more recent?
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Leveller

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Leveller · 12-Окт-24 23:09 (спустя 12 мин., ред. 12-Окт-24 23:22)


Я уже устанавливал демоверсию из Steam, так что, возможно, это помогло.
Попробуйте KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.29-Hotfix1_Build_16012780.7z в Documents>My Games>KingdomDungeonAndHero
Возможно, так и должно быть, но по какой-то причине Documents>KingdomDungeonAndHero сработало у меня. Не знаю, почему.
Вот dll Goldberg, который я использовал
https://pixeldrain.com/u/4kP4YeFw
Удачи.
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I have installed the demo from Steam in the past so maybe this helped.
Try KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.29-Hotfix1_Build_16012780.7z in Documents>My Games>KingdomDungeonAndHero
This is the way it should probably be but for some reason Documents>KingdomDungeonAndHero worked for me. I do not know why.
Here is the Goldberg dll I used
https://pixeldrain.com/u/4kP4YeFw
Good luck.
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ldeza

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ldeza · 13-Окт-24 14:20 (спустя 15 часов, ред. 13-Окт-24 14:20)

If I put the the folder in My Games, the game is missing the English language file, and again no menu.
Directly in the Documents folder seems correct because when you run the game, it will create the folder in that location automatically, though without the languages folder.
Goldberg dll is the same.
With GCS method got this error:
"Unable to patch registry (HKLM)"
Edit: Thanks again Leveller, I see you posted in cs.rin. I also had installed the Unleashed version, but never installed the demo, it has to be a file from the demo what makes it work in your case.
Do you see any file in the "\Documents\KingdomDungeonAndHero" folders that could come from the demo? If not I will wait for lanternjoe to find an alternate solution.
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G.C.S. · 13-Окт-24 17:25 (спустя 3 часа, ред. 13-Окт-24 17:25)

If you use the trick using the Forts crack, you shouldn't replace the original steam_api64.dll with the Goldberg crack...
The crack is outside of the game folder, in the "game" folder you place the unmodified Clean Steam Files.
This trick also works with Dune Imperium and probably any game that checks if steam_api64.dll is modified...
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Mflopp · 13-Окт-24 18:51 (спустя 1 час 25 мин., ред. 13-Окт-24 23:24)

Another day, another example of WDS brilliance!
PzC Philippines '44, Leyte - X Corps Invasion & Expansion scenario.
It's always nice to catch your opponent with his pants down but c'mon already! So many questions... Why did that Japanese unit left the objective hex? Why go through the marsh when there's a road in adjacent hex?
My guess is there's no viable reserves on Japanese side to throw my way so why AI can't just dig in and stall human opponent for as long as it's possible?
Btw it's disrupted because of the thing that smells so good in the morning!
Best positioning ever! Instead of moving into the adjacent trench one Japanese unit is comfortably sitting in the middle of a field and another is chilling in the "clear" area.
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duqur · 13-Окт-24 23:01 (спустя 4 часа)

The patch is giving errors in the updates, FWWC East Prussia '14 Start when you play two games it goes off the screen
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Leveller

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Leveller · 14-Окт-24 13:44 (спустя 14 часов, ред. 04-Ноя-24 16:20)

ldeza писал(а):
86833199If I put the the folder in My Games, the game is missing the English language file, and again no menu.
Directly in the Documents folder seems correct because when you run the game, it will create the folder in that location automatically, though without the languages folder.
Goldberg dll is the same.
With GCS method got this error:
"Unable to patch registry (HKLM)"
Edit: Thanks again Leveller, I see you posted in cs.rin. I also had installed the Unleashed version, but never installed the demo, it has to be a file from the demo what makes it work in your case.
Do you see any file in the "\Documents\KingdomDungeonAndHero" folders that could come from the demo? If not I will wait for lanternjoe to find an alternate solution.
Доступна новая версия KDH. У меня она тоже работает без запущенного Steam.
Вы можете попробовать установить демо, а затем запустить версию CS RIN с открытым Steam. Затем удалите демо, выйдите из Steam и попробуйте версию CS RIN снова. Стоит попробовать.
Вы также можете попробовать метод G.C.S., опубликованный в CS RIN:
"используйте кряк Forts и измените все файлы .ini в соответствии с требованиями игры. Я помещаю немодифицированный CSF игры в каталог "game" и запускаю игру с помощью steam.exe.
(Таким образом кряк находится вне папки игры, а оригинальный steam_api64.dll остается неприкрепленным...)
Я проверил это с Kingdom Dungeon и Hero, Dune Imperium и Forts, и во всех случаях все работает отлично, и все dlc разблокированы."
Dostupna novaya versiya KDH. U menya ona tozhe rabotayet bez zapushchennogo Steam.
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There is a new KDH version available. This also works for me without Steam running.
You could try installing the demo and then running the CS RIN version with Steam open. Then uninstall the demo and exit Steam and try the CS RIN version again. It is worth a try.
You could also try G.C.S.'s method posted in CS RIN:
"use the Forts crack and modify all the .ini files according to the requirements of the game. I place the unmodified CSF of the game in the "game" directory and run the game with steam.exe.
(That way the crack is outside of the game folder and the original steam_api64.dll remains unttached...)
I checked this with Kingdom Dungeon and Hero, Dune Imperium and Forts and in all cases everything works fine and all dlc are unlocked."
KDH 1.306 (4/11/24)
Kingdom, Dungeon, and Hero | v1.306 [Build 16281274] (Clean Steam files)
https://pixeldrain.com/u/nDbbTdft
KingdomDungeonAndHero_GameData_v1.306_Build_16281274
https://pixeldrain.com/u/hfYnkECt
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137893&p=3140931#p3140931
f.g.n.
https://pixeldrain.com/u/AAdZAq3K
Goldberg dll I used
https://pixeldrain.com/u/4kP4YeFw
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ldeza

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ldeza · 14-Окт-24 14:11 (спустя 26 мин., ред. 14-Окт-24 14:11)

Thanks for the updated links Leveller
I tried GCS method, he even sent me his modified ini files, but had the registry problem.
Today tried again and it worked running steam.exe as administrator (a trick that did not work yesterday!).
However the problem remains the same, the game is loaded without menu and the rest of the graphics.
This happens with yesterday files and with today updated files.
For some reason the game is more clever detecting these tricks in my computer
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Leveller · 14-Окт-24 16:05 (спустя 1 час 53 мин., ред. 14-Окт-24 16:05)

Попробуйте, может быть, это:
Сделайте две копии версии 1.291 CS RIN. Оставьте одну на рабочем столе.
Установите демо, затем скопируйте и вставьте один из файлов версии CS RIN поверх файлов демо. Запустите демо и версию CS RIN один раз. Удалите демо и удалите папку демо в библиотеке Steam и попробуйте вторую версию CS RIN на рабочем столе.
На этом этапе у меня закончились идеи. Мне бы очень хотелось узнать, почему у меня это работает без Steam, хотя бы для удовлетворения моего любопытства и для справок в будущем.
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Maybe try this:
Make two copies of the 1.291 CS RIN version. Leave one on your desktop.
Install the demo then copy and paste one of the CS RIN version files over the demo files. Run the demo and the CS RIN version once. Uninstall the demo and delete the demo folder in Steam Library and try the second CS RIN version on your desktop.
At this point I have run out of ideas. I would really like to know why it works for me without Steam if only for to satisfy my curiosity and for future reference.
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G.C.S. · 14-Окт-24 22:25 (спустя 6 часов, ред. 14-Окт-24 22:25)

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86839880Thanks for the updated links Leveller
I tried GCS method, he even sent me his modified ini files, but had the registry problem.
Today tried again and it worked running steam.exe as administrator (a trick that did not work yesterday!).
Maybe you have the game installed in a protected folder? Like Program Files? Looks like a permissions problem...
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Leveller

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Leveller · 17-Окт-24 18:49 (спустя 2 дня 20 часов)

Я сегодня разбирал старые USB-накопители и нашел это. Сейчас он снят с производства и больше не доступен в их магазине.
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ldeza · 17-Окт-24 22:49 (спустя 4 часа)

Leveller, I sent you a pm, but you have not read it.
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